ZaZa “Non African” Ali Responds to the blog: ZaZa Ali is a Half breed
LITTLE BOY – YES YOU, YOU ARE A LITTLE BOY – GROWING UP IN A WHITE MANS WORLD – POWERLESS AND PITIFUL, OPPOSED TO STRIKING OUT AT YOUR REAL ENEMY, YOU COME FOR ME. SHOW YOUR FACE SO I CAN ADDRESS YOU LIKE A MAN AND NOT A SCREEN NAME. TELL THE WORLD YOUR NAME IF YOU ARE A MAN. OR ARE YOU PLAYING REVOLUTIONARY WHILE SITTING BEHIND A DESK AT A WHITE MANS CORPORATION. SHOW ME WHO YOU ARE AND I WILL TELL YOU EXACTLY WHO AND WHAT I AM. LITTLE PUNK.
ZaZa Ali
Amos Magazine 
Just a half breed whore running off at the mouth! This unconscious tramp needs to be put in her damn place! You notice she never answered the question what race her mother was. Hmmmmm……very interesting is it not? She and Griff are just running off of emotion. They never addressed any of the facts in the video. Griff is the Minister of Dis-information. And his sidekick lacks substance. She just relies on her light-skin and long hair to win over color-struck negroes. From now on I will refer to her as Blah Blah Ali.lol Since every time she opens her mouth all I her is blah..blah….brothers and sisters…..blah…strong community…Griff is my brother…blah..blah…blah. It get so old!!
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You must thank Nubian Times… When I go back to Malcolm X… he gave lots of lies as well.. Tribe of Shabazz, Arabism… we need to have an African standard.. … she is just a freaky mixed breed looking for black sex and black $$$.. she is a clown.. look at their childish response… Mwalikwu K Baruti tied to them.. Zaza Ali << Muslim. Griff Muslim and Barautis daugther is a Muslim… smh a NOI Muslim which promotes anti African colorism… Malcolm X was chosen because of his skin complexion that is being anti Black.
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Yeah but they’ll never admit that. Griff loves to talk around issues. He never deals with the issue head on. And of course Zaza benefits from the colorism perspective so she’ll never address it at all.
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Are yall fuckin stooooooopiiiidddd! BLACK comes in a multitude of shades ..hair textures and features! This shows the true ignorance and stationary mind of some black folks!…Long hair are you fuckin kidding me..! You might as well give white folks more power then us ….basically saying we all look the same!…go open a book learn more of different BLACK genes and history then talk! My hair is to my waist ….and im black…your probably one of those dumass Negros who say omg your not black cuz your hair texture or its long! WTF !!!!!!!!!!!! SMH
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African people do not have multitude of skin shades or hair texture. Give me some documentation of pictures and photos of Brown Africans… Show me Brown Africans have all these different hair textures and skin complextions… Africans have Brown Skin in different hues and African texture hair… If your hair is to your waste is because you are racially mixed. I think long hair is very unattractive I prefer African women with natural African hair that is true beauty. I am not concerned with White people. I wish White people would come claim their mulatto children from the Brown African world…. I am an African who says if you dont share the same traits as Africans from time in memorial you are not Black… you are racially mixed.
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White people are the ones who claim that Blacks comes in all these different shades and different hair textures so they can have their mulatto children like Barack Obama, Louis Farrakhan and ZaZa Ali maintain European hegemony over Africans. There are over 750 million Brown Africans in Africa… Show me an authentic African who has long hair to her waste in our climate… LOL you are mad… You are just upset White people dont accept you.
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I am taking power away from Whites… White people children will not be called Black in my world. And if you want to have Black children you better procreate with Blacks…. You hair is down to your waist and you are Black? What part of African are you from and from what Ethnic Group does this long hair to her waist trend belong undreaded… good luck with that qugest..
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You are a mulatto passing for Black in service of White racism for a government quota job. Since you view White people as superior you want to be classified as Black and put your non African genetics in the African gene pool and lie and pretend as if its normal replacing authentic Black African Beauty.
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First of all, we never said a thing about hair length. If you have Afrikan-textured hair that is long then it’s just Afrikan-textured hair that was grown out to that length. Generally, Afrikan people’s hair breaks off more easily so it’s usually only people who are completely natural with locs or people who go out of their way to grow their hair who can grow it to waist-level. Other than that, mixed women more easily grow their hair due to the fact that they usually use less chemicals to straighten their hair.
Another thing, why is the fact that black people look similar and share traits a bad thing? I don’t get how us looking different from whites is something that should fill us with shame.
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And even when they (Black/Afrikan people) do grow their hair it doesn’t natural fall to their waist in an un-loc’d state. Our hair grows upwards.
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correct….
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Oh boy! Here we go again! A bunch of ranting and incoherent nonsense. Educate yourself then come back with an intelligent response. Good day miss.
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Agreed, however her mother is white. She has said
this numerous times with her own mouth.
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ZaZa Ali is a self hating mulatto.
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So ZaZa and Griff broke up right? Their secret love affair is over and they don’t tour or do the radio show no more right? Is this why the homosexual Irritated Genie is now now speaking out against ‘Bi-Racial’ people and mulattoes are enemies of African people?
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Mulattoes are scumbags…..some are decent but for the most part White Trash if you ask me…. I dont know
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Really?? I didn’t know that. So there’s trouble in paradise.lol I don’t keep up with them that much anymore so I was not aware of that. Thanks for the heads up.
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Yes, they are white trash.
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What is wrong with your mind?
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Nothing. What’s wrong with yours?
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I left a few responses to these two dim-witted wannabe revolutionaries. Let’s see if Griff has time to take Alex Jones penis from his mouth and respond to me. I’m not to concerned with Blah Blah Ali though. She seems very offended at the truth. She can’t deal with brothers who are not drooling at the mouth over her half-albino beauty.lol
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She is not a Black woman… bottom line… I have not ill will or hate, I just dont want people saying how beautiful and black she is, it destroys the minds of black women and black girls.. she is not authentic.
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She still has not answered what race her mother is. I wish they would stop playing these silly games. Game over!! They have been exposed!!lol
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Kushite speaking that truth!
What are your thoughts on King Noble?
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He does make some good points from time to time. I agree with some of what he says although not 100%. I’ve also heard that he’s running some type of sex cult with young girls. All under the guise the black power. Not sure how true that is though. A few people have told me this. That’s why he’s a controversial figure.
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I don’t gossip about what a man does sexually but I wouldn’t doubt it many people join these psuedo groups abuse women historically. I blocked a comment directed at you by a one drop rule supporter. This ACBN blog is not for unhealthy waste of time debates.
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Thank you. I appreciate that. I only bring it up because I know a young lady that met Noble before. Let’s just say,it wasn’t the most pleasant experience for her.
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Yes, many predators around here. Good info.
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I think you are just an angry black man. This woman does more for the unity of black Americans than you and others like yourself. Get it together Angry Black. She’s intelligent and unattainable by the likes of you so there you are with your faux pride and even phonier moniker. We half black people are despised by white people almost as much as you.
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Calling people angry is childish and shows lack of intellectual development….But I dont blame you, White America has done a brilliant job at dumbing down people……Who cares if White people despise you? The issue is that Authentic Blacks despise Half Caste…fuck White people feelings…..Black people are “Angry” but you talk with so much respect for Whites…Improve yourself.
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You’re not even worth the time to respond to. You are obviously an idiot. Please get lost you dumb bastard! This forum is for grown folks little boy.
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fools
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Indeed they are.
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This woman is obviously white. She is a Rachel Dolezal. The fact she does things for the black community does not make her black. If Jacky Chan would start to work for blacks, that would not make him black.
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Teaching Black Studies and Working at the NAACP is the Black community giving her a job that an a Black person could be doing.
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At the 45:00 minute mark of this recent YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBts81Iadas), ZaZa addressed this issue after discussing recent remarks made by Raven Symone during an interview with Oprah. I know that Ali does work with the Irritated Genie. He has made remarks using the term “mulatto” unfavorably. Now that Ali has openly discussed this issue, do you think this weakens her contributions and connections with fellow members of the conscious community? I know she has made comments against interracial dating – as well as referring to whites as devils. Is this a contradiction to you? Or, do you agree with “her” position (in the YouTube link I shared) on the dominant gene of her black father deciding for her, what some may call, her real racial identity as black? When she speaks against interracial relationships and refers to whites as devils, is this a sense of self-hatred on her part, in your opinion? I ask you these questions, only because you exposed this before Ali exposed it to her audience. I am just curious your take on these things, now that she has boldly confronted it on her own.
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I dont give two shit about that female… I am telling Africans to tell their children never to follow a person like her… and those who maybe brain not to follow the enemy ie ZaZa Ali…… The other stuff you posted… Oprah … Raven Samone… could careless about either of them and dont know what you are taling about…… ACBN defines African as two African parents brown skin and African textured hair…… its not brain surgery…
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She has the nerve to tell Black people they don’t have a right to exclude her. She should get over herself.
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Laughing my ass off… I hope you are kidding right? She said that? Black people don’t have a right to exclude her? Momma taught he well. That is so White female of her the arrogance. Really, she is saying youre Black, who can you reject me…I am better than you are…
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This is how sick we are as black ppl
To be going after zaza who is for the betterment of our race. She is not the enemy,and personally I like her and what she’s doing.
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Mulattoes are the enemy
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including Malcolm? and Fredrick Douglas?
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Yes
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Who is going after ZaZa? I would not even acknowledge her offline… I see her as non African and an enemy of African people. If you personally like her, that is your business. She is not a Black woman nor a Black Warrior and is a result of White racist trying to use their half breed children to rule over African people… People like ZaZa will not be accepted in ACBN circles and those who support this enemy of Africa will be treated as she is an enemy.
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white people have always ruled over blacks since the beginning of humanity.
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Blacks existed before Whites
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lol
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You all sound like feds. Retards, for sure…
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I am sure the “Feds” would espouse that half breeds like ZaZa Ali are not Black African and should be shunned by African people and that African people espouse the African Centered Biological Nationalist view that an African comes from two African parents… which would decrease White power and White influence over Blacks… because WHite people will put their psychology and politics in their children thus Barack Obama calling himself Black and showing no respect to Black Africans.
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These retards always use the “agent” argument when you use common sense and speak out against the one-drop rule.
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Its funny. I mean I am not provoking anyone to violence I am just making African people think and question and when they do it will change their behavior to those of us who are remotely SANE. It so many idiots. Ignorant Negroes only debate Black thinkers they will follow the most idiotic European person in the world.
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Hmmmm. ZaZa Ali. That chick…..rude, obnoxious and very afraid of her position. I cannot stand her..in person or online. How many on this link know that she got done for bank fraud…the kind of fraud that would’ve earned anyone else some jail time. i think she an agent….and unfortunately, as cool as Griff used to be before he picked up the ‘swirl chick’. I think he may have gone off the deep end too. As my mother always says, the arms of flesh will fail you, you dare not trust your own!
Just goes to show that people shouldn’t glean information from others…learn for self!
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Let me say that I have issues with King Noble. I’m not a big supporter of his. But I do agree with some of the things he says about the black conscious community. I’m posting this video because he makes some valid points about Zaza and Griff. Check it out and let me know what you guys think.
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I’m sorry about that. I believe this is the right video. You can delete the other video if you like.
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self hate that is masked as black consciousness… good point @ 1:35
light skinned “Black leaders” talking down to blacks ie Obama, Zaza Ali and Soledad OBrien….
“Its no different than a White man doing it and talking down to us, because you represent the White man…. 100% CORRECT
“OVERTHROW THE WHITE MAN” this is what Dr. Amos N Wilson says the purpose of African Centered Education is the Overthrow of White Power!
The lightest woman you can find and have a problem with interrical dating.. BARUTI and GRIFF LOL ahahahahaha
Mwalui K Baruti is the prime example of this…. his wife, kids and grandkids look nothing like an Black African!
I always though Irritate Genie was kinda sweet…. something is off with dude.
Not a fan of the Moors but this King Noble dude made some valid and great points…
ZaZa Ali is half white…sorry… Barauti wife is a generational mulatto… King Noble is 100% correct….. this decribes Mwaliu K Barauti to the 100th degree… smh
You love ligther but you dont have the heart to go Whiter… ahahahahahahahahahahahah DEAD OMG!
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As a light skinned, God loving, Black people loving woman of power, I just don’t think that its positive to further divide us brother by attacking each other using the color complex. No, it is NOT right for any of us to condemn the other without inspiring each other to change, but we have TOO MANY problems in our community to keep on attacking each other…THIS IS WHY we can’t get anything productive done in our culture!!
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Answer me this why is it productive for Whites to reject biracials then?
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If you are biracial you belong to a mixed family and its not productive for Africans to have light skinned people as representatives of their race because it subconsciously reinforces White supremacist ideology that Whites are superior to Africans thus mulattoes and mix breeds are an improvement. Your logic is flawed. You have a European Nam and talking about African culture? You want to promote racially !mixed and biracials as African when they have mixed loyalties and aren’t Black yet you talking lack of productivity. You mulattoes and mixed breeds have the most asinine logic. You would talk such foolish non sense to White people who are also light skinned….
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Africans are productive without light skinned people. Light skinned people only want to be rules created by their White ancestors, work within the system and get token positions within White governments and promote White offspring as Black.
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Once all this conflict has blown over, it will be difficult to see all of these black people in the same light again. It sure doesn’t look good
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He seems there is a beef between Tariq Nasheed and Griff and Zaza Ali. Tariq claims that Zaza is a convicted felon and a fraud. In this video he gets pretty heated. I personally think Zaza may
have taken a deal to get less prison time. It’s highly possible she was told to infiltrate the conscious community and collect information. I also think Griff is aware that she is a fraud. Check out the video and judge for yourself.
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If a mulatto can infiltrate those idiots who let her in thinking with their little head and not the big head should be set up…..thanks for the video……I use this as teaching tools…..
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Yes indeed. It seems as though Zaza was convicted on bank fraud. She was facing 30 years and got placed on house arrest! How the hell do you pull that off? The case involved eighteen people out in Oakland. It’s obvious to me that Zaza snitched on the others and cut a deal for no jail time. I believe the government asked her to infiltrate the conscious community and gather information on them. I also believe that Griff is in on it. How many times will fall for this? They used agents on the Panthers,MLK and Malcolm X. Silly ass negroes need to wake up!
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If it was her first offense….she shouldn’t do 30. That being said..countrywide, wells Fargo were giving arms to Black’s. I don’t tell people my background but the most troubling thing is she was connected to countrywide and a montage firm in which she was probably used to bring in naive and gullible Black Americans…. That should be the question people are asking. Everything else is self explanatory… Her mother is white.
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Not trying to change the subject, but just curious – Will the Anti-Homosexual Professor Griff ever explain his old album cover? This is the Gayest thing I have ever seen
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I seen that today….. He doesn’t have to. African people should pay attention to these people but only to keep your enemies closer.
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King Noble already on the check in
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How you know he getting his ass rubbed
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I think this says it all – a 2010 ZaZa, wearing Gucci shades and a Hustler (porn magazine) shirt
Looks like she was living that Unconscious Balla Life
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She is definitely all about that LIFE!!!LOL!!! This woman is such a phony. She is as transparent as Saran Wrap.lol
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That pic looks like Griff is “getting pumped” from behind.lol
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Griff got his ass Black-Drafted! LOL
Why no one ever bring this up on him and Irritated Genie’s anti gay/anti mulatto lecture circuit?
A lecture circuit by the way, that features a mulatto keynote speaker, and a former rapper with an ambiguously gay album cover – Fight the Power!
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Brain dead people looking for a savior
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Yeah that’s a good question.lol Griff really let me down. I grew up listening to Public Enemy. Griff and Check D woke me up back in the day. Them and the group X Clan. But Griff is really slipping lately. He needs to ditch Zaza. That’s a bad look for him. I have my issues with Tariq. I don’t agree with everything he says. But I am kind of glad he’s going in on them. They need to be checked. No one will check Zaza though. They want to get in her panties so much.lol
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That let’s you know the mentality of Black !men. A piece of ass will make them balk
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Sad but true.
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Glad I found this site. As a black female seeking to be conscious, I started listening to Griff but I never could get with Zaza…she is seemed to irritate my spirit and now I understand why…Then I listened to some stuff by Sotomayor rhen realized he was an agent…now realize Griff is not as conscious as I thought and I have come to conclude that consciousness is an individual experience based on truth. So no more looking for a “black savior”. Gotta save myself and my family.
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I am happy I could assist you. One of my goals is to restore the image of the African man and woman. I want authentic African peoples in the front and center of the African centered universe.
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I’m sure you are aware, but I should state that some of us who may have brown or lighter skin, can be mixed with Native Indian, or something other than white. Also Africans on the Ivory Coast show many hues, as did the ancient Kemetic peoples. How does berating light skinned people advance the freedom and liberation of all Black people, and how does it not further the destruction of our people when you attack people like Muhammad Ali, Angela Davis, Farrakhan, WEB Dubois because of their skin color? In your world, does the philosophy and values of a conscious person have less importance than their skin color, and is there is only one, single way to fight against white supremacy? Just curious, what are your thoughts on Adam Clayton Powell speech about his skin color and where it came from?
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How does erasing the racist one drop empower African people? How does not allowing people like Adam Clayton Powell, Louis Farracon and Angela Davis not have leadership empower African people? How does valuing African people as unique, special and not some group of people who mixed raced people can steal our identity empower African people? I have no opinion on the White male Adam Clayton Powell or any of the non African people you posted. Go ask an Arab, Asian or other non Europe group the same. Your questions are anti intellectual and seek to attack my brain using the Willie Lynch Code One Drop rule. You are a very sick and demented person.
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Are Africans on Ivory Coast mixed with native Indian? What does people mixed with native Indian have to do with Africans? Why all this confusion. By continuing to classify non Africans as Africans destroys Black peoples genetics, cohesiveness and will ultimately lead to us being replaced by non Africans. By classifying Africans as Africans will save us from destruction. You make very little sense. I am not going to claim a non African is Black because they are famous that is utterly stupid.
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Kemet had race mixing and today is ruled by Arabs. I believe “America” is ruled by Europeans today. Very important to sure up your group and keep non Africans from position of power. This is about African survival not you hero worship of racially mixed celebrities and mostly White DNA politicians like Adam Clayton Powell who used African people to advance his own career and married and procreated with a Puerto Rican. You think I’m stupid.
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We are well aware of the fact that light skin people are mixed. That’s what ACBN is all about, defining who is black based on traits. You’re black only if you have brown to deep dark brown skin and Afrikan-textured hair.
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I would not call Sotomayor an agent. He is a negro and doesn’t try to hide it. African centeredness is not for everyone.
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What do you recommend? I am not a religious person. I will be graduating in Dec with a Bachelor degree in Comparative Religion./ Philosophy. Not keen on the metaphysical either. If what you have is in the vein of history or ATR ‘s provide links etc. My reading is eclectic so I am open.
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Go to law school…….read Dr john henrike Clarke then cross reference his sources…… I can’t think of anything now.
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What are you a prophet? I have been considering law school or a Masters in Non Profit Organization.. Wow I am floored. Thanks for the links. I have checked out some of your articles and I am like wow. where have I been. totally unconscious. Thank you …
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I think philosophy majors should go into law because you have good reading and analytical skills. Being conscious diminishes your life in America. I battled with my double conscious mind because I was an athlete in college and I had friends, females who were Black greek assimilationist. You will lose lots of people because around colleges their is a biracial / black academic and government job elite. Was I accepted into this circle yes. Athlete with good looks many of black and biracial women of course wanted to open me to the safe life of America but I just could not do it. I tell you, don’t expect to go to black tie NAACP and uncf events talking about Dr. Amos Wilson or Dr. Clark. Law school is a bit of gamble if you don’t get an district attorney job and have no hustle. Non for Profit isn’t bad. I think you are at a crossroads. Many don’t even make it to that point. Good Luck with your choice
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Bro…c’mon. You’re playing in the sandbox with the kindergarteners while the nuclear buttons are being pressed. Take a glimpse into the mind(s) of the real, extant danger: http://www.amren.com/
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Black is color and spirit I would prefer minister Farrakhan, ZaZa Ali and. 100 other llight skinned blacks or mulatto that have black spirit as opposed to dark skinned blacks with the mentality of larry elder. Niger. Ennis or any black with the stephen from the movie Django. Spirit the original man must be present to be black. Mulattoes wiith a black father have the original mans spirit from their father they have choice of accepting or rejecting their spirit. Whites (men especially) as a whole reject their mulatto (except for devious purposes) offspring due to the fact the children remind them of their genetic inferiority. Mulattoes that grow up as white people usually are confused or crazy due to non acceptance from the whites as a whole. Refer to being used for deviant purposes is when they are most toleranted.
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Black is not a spirit…. Black meaning biologically African….
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Why are you guys so obsess with forcing everyone to include mulattoes in their plans for the BLACK/AFRIKAN race? I don’t get it. Why should you, I, or anyone else give a damn about mixed breeds? We don’t need mixed people in our movement. TBH, they only create more difficulties for us in the in since we’ll have contend and deal with all sorts of different types of “black” identities instead of the just one we should actually be centering our attention on. Mulattoes and other mixed peoples do NOT see themselves the same way you do. Each of the various mixed groups (e.g., half Asian, half white, half Indian, half Native American; tri-racial; etc.) has their own version of “blackness” which they identify with. How the HELL are we supposed to bring all these people together and create an AFRIKAN identity when you have so many diverse viewpoints and people of various backgrounds? The best thing we could do is redefine the word “black” and have it only refer to one type: the authentic Black/Afrikan. Enough is enough!
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Amos Wilson warned us that reactionary behavior is never good, can only react after the deed is done, when in reality you don’t want the act to take place at all.
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Ever notice mixed people don’t seek Africans to join their stuff, go on Google and search mixed girls, you’ll notice they DON’T include black women and the mulattoes that run these pages support mixed couples as well as other mixes many that aren’t even black and white. Mixed race men are making it be known they aren’t African in the hopes of less problems from police and suffering from the criminal black male stereotype. These people have nothing to do with us and most definitely won’t support African rising in power considering how comfortable they are with their white relatives having power right now.
Black women stay putting these mixed people in our business as well as black men who love them and want us to accept them as black. This is detrimental to our development, mixed people have no homeland, no permanent affiliation with helping blacks, no permanent identity, have used blacks in the past and continue to use blacks for their own benefit and almost always seek white help.
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have used blacks in the past and continue to use blacks for their own benefit and almost always seek white help.
Bingo…The Civil Rights Movement which was actually a White Left/Communist Movement used the Condition of Blacks to push their agenda of Homosexuality and White Women improving their wages and job status….MLK Jr was a collaborator with our enemies.
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Most mixed people are anti-Black. They’re also always using the same divide and conquer methods that the whites use. Ever noticed how they will try to talk crap about Afrikan people in their face by pretending to only be talking about those of a certain skin tone? They’ll talk to someone with dark brown skin and then say, “I’m not talking about YOU, I mean people DARKER THAN YOU….you’re OKAY.” They do this with all Afrikans in general so to keep us all worshiping them for having non Afrikan traits. And like dumbasses we go right along with it, thinking we’re better than the next Afrikan because
“they said I ain’t THAT DARK AND BLACK.” Stupid. I see this crap all the time. Especially black women. These mulatto women have black women putting each other down in favor of the mulatto and other non Afrikans. How many times you’ve met a delusional Afrikan women who didn’t know she was “dark” or that she in fact looked Afrikan?
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Good to see Africans putting the boot down on these mulattoes and their lovers, a whole bunch of grown ass negroes are in fits over basic biology, genes can be weeded out of a genepool (talk of 250 year old rapes are irrelevant), mixed doesn’t equal African or European biologically and the idiots denying race is deeper than skin haven’t even used commonsense when analyzing it the Y-chromosome is made up of 78 genes that makes a hell of a difference between humans (creates the genders), humans with 1 too many chromosomes have down syndrome that is a massive biological and perceptive difference from their perception of life as well as ours, humans share 80% of their DNA with banana trees, look how big a difference that is biologically, so when there are obvious phenotypical differences those must be more than skin deep and must be in the genes.
Mulattoes are nor ever will be African, may be related but are in no way the same, idiots who are going by the ‘one drop rule’ should promptly kill themselves as the are already advocating it genetically. White people invented it in America for one purpose confusion, all white people agreed that mixed doesn’t equal African, the Spanish and Portuguese were famed for this, but the French did it, Creoles anyone, the Dutch did it, the English did (go to the Caribbean and they will tell you straight up even lighter shades are sometimes regarded as different), so why did this white America go the opposite way? This was white America’s technique for dealing with the African problem, afraid they would be considered an African nation and blocked out of trade and loans from European nations they like these so-called Latin American nations imported millions of poor white trash from all over Europe and Arabia to replace the Africans they never needed (so much for money doesn’t see color, lol). The Brazilians argued that America had a less effective method than them, which Woodrow Wilson a notorious white bigot later admitted. This method was to mix out and kill as many Africans as possible, when Brazil ended slavery Africans were 80% of the population now they are 7%, guess who replaced them, the half caste offsping of whites and naive, brain dead Africans who never believed or didn’t care that they were gonna disappear caused this. These mulattoes have showed little interest in trying to better themselves much less Africans so are a perfect tool of whites, America on the other hand adhering to their policy of isolationism (not only abroad what the hell you think segregation did economically), ended up not wiping out their African population but increasing it and it took until the 70’s for them to formulate ways to reduce them, one of their most important was immigration, change laws in the 60’s to reduce European immigration and bring in millions of Mestizos, Arabs, Chinese, East Indians, Koreans, Salvadorians but guess who still don’t come Africans. This is an issue Africans over here haven’t picked up on at all and the white media completely ignores this because this would be their worst fear. Mixed breeds have never been considered African even in the black community here, light skin always compared to white skin, never with Africa, brown paper bag tests, hair and pen tests, vein tests, passing for white, these people have long list of non-African traits and ideologies that were attached to them and these stupid negroes pretend it applies to Africans when it has never. The last year mulatto appeared on the US census 1930, white people new we weren’t the same, they did this as a confusion tactic, two groups fighting over the same identity, they will never challenge whites and they know it. What do think would have happened if white and mulatto were conflated into the same category, a lot of colorism light skin vs white skin and mixed people with bad hair and whole bunch of other confusing ideas, this would mess up their race as a people don’t know who they are, have no clear enemies since anyone can join once they mix, don’t have a homeland (where is mulattoland?).
This has always been the case, notice countries that are regarded as black still get the lowest amount of loans and funding from the West, what do you think these white people had planned during colonialism, a racial hierarchy that is why you get white at the top, yellow next, brown next then lastly black at the bottom, South Africa even exposed this as their ideology (at least they were official with it) European, East Indian, Colored (Mulattoes) and lastly African, no matter what they say or do the end results always end like this no matter where they are. America has this too, why is it Africans of every generation from the house niggers to Obama have identified that mixed people get better treatment than Africans, because this hierarchy is in effect on American soil too; ‘blacks are all the same’, ‘…’, ‘hehehe’, ‘but we treat the light ones better’, clearly they ain’t the same. This hierarchy can be prove easily not just in funding in importance and don’t make the mistake it is only held by the rich, ‘terrorism’ and war who s the most important, white first media attention for the minor terrorist acts in France, East Asians next massive Western attention for minor ‘democracy’ protests in Hong Kong for weeks, same thing with the plane flight that ‘disappeared’ form Malaysia to China, Arabs look at the media attention and level of importance in most white people’s minds for wars in the Middle East and North Africa meanwhile they ignore wars in Somalia, Congo and Nigeria, Boko Haram has the most terrorist bombing, killing and had spread beyond Nigeria into areas where Fulani militants are already causing havoc Cameroon, Chad, Niger but why is the media ignoring them, they are more dangerous than ISIS but why is the media ignoring them, they have fought US and French troops but why is the media ignoring them, the most deadly war since the last of the European civil wars (world war two) is in Congo where since 1996 when that treasonous negro Mobutu was ousted at least 15 million people have died (western spectator keep trying to bracket in a bunch of years as different wars). What is so important and different that more African lives are ignored for 130 deaths in France: white people come from France, there is yout man made ideology in a nutshell.
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I have told African people this time and time again Europeans, like all groups, have a level of importance for other groups they have come into contact with. For all of these groups it is based on their unique history and relation to Europeans, as they developed the social construct of race, different races had different history’s in relation to Europeans, just like individual people have different relationships to each other based on past interactions and preconceptions. Africans have ignored the socio-relational past we have had with Europeans and instead of seeking to correct it (in our favor) Africans have routinely ignored it, pretended it is irrelevant to today and pretended that it is now forgotten; nothing is forgotten to the European.
Guardian article on Europeans ignoring the Congo War: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/06/ignore-congo-atrocities-africa-drc-horror
The most interesting part is how Africans history of been victims to Europeans have played up numerous different responses which all together deny European criminality in relation to Congo and continuously ignore Africans plight as a people, which is something of a continuation of European colonialism where they have destroyed their own ‘consciousness’ and concept of morals to maintain the continual destruction of Africans for their own benefit. Bare in mind the following comments have been made by Europeans in 2015, they haven’t changed at all, so much for ordinary Europeans are on or should be on the the same side as Africans instead of with their European ruling class.
mike65ie 6 Mar 2015 11:10 99 likes
Its a long way off, has no obvious practical impact on us up here and we know little of it (and it IS very complicated, I wouldn’t know who to cheer and who to boo).
I can’t cry a river about every terrible thing in the world
A comment that denies the importance of Congo’s people and minerals to global powers and ignores the plight of Africans in particular: ‘I can’t cry a river about every terrible thing in the world’, but I’m sure they could cry about France or possibly even Libya but not Congo. The article as well as commenters claim the level complication makes it impossible to keep up, this lie is another excuse to ignore Africans, all wars are complicated today due to globalization, who knows exactly what is going on with ISIS or exactly what was was going on with the Contras in the 80’s in Nicaragua, nobody but they knew who their ruling class officially sided with and the ordinary European took the same side.
chrystophylax 6 Mar 2015 11:11 80 likes
Our expectations for the continent are very low and we are not ever disappointed.
As for compassion, very few progressives give a tinkers’ cuss for Africa, most of their alleged concern is aimed at one specific ‘victim’ group (mainly because if who it is allegedly ‘oppressing’ them).
This ‘progressive’ European has shown you how ‘liberal’ these fools really are. The commenter highlights the importance of history, showing that white people have a low value on Africans lives and have expectations of this kind of behavior for Africans and this in turn in filtered into excuses for ignoring and dismissing these people.
Ranger75th Zhubajie 6 Mar 2015 11:37 11 likes
dont worry, we will never set foot in the african continent.
we took everything we needed in the 18th / 19th century
then in the 20th century we established our puppy governments and sat down watching you killing each others while the commodities steadily flew over to us
Now all our largest and smallest mining companies have interest there which are defended by ur war lords, and we could not care the less about what happen there. Anyone in power is happy to give us a share in exchange for a lovely Mansion in mayfair and a table at Nofikof
History again, white people acknowledging past events and current (interactions), but as per usual not wanting justice for Africans, these people are really against equality, which is something that can be done by Europeans changing their mindset towards Africans and ultimately seeking justice against their ancestor by readdressing land and wealth stolen and giving back to those who were robbed. White people are not ever gonna give Africans equality so we should not seek it, we should be taking what is ours step by step and punishing non-Africans by treating them unfairly in comparison to ourselves to readdress the issue ourselves.
RussBrown 6 Mar 2015 11:15 9 likes
Not because it is in Africa, if it had oil and gas pipelines running through it we would be obsessed with regime change, if those pipelines were not ours.
Owen, look up Tony Blairs speech about Liberal Interventionism in Chicago 1999. He says very clearly we ONLY intervene if capitalist self interests and human rights concern are combined. Human rights concerns without capitalist interests are sadly ignored. This is how the world works.
This comment is interesting it gives a false narrative and lies about the importance of Congo’s resources to rich European capitalists in order to excuse normal European people ignoring the war, malnutrition, diseases and disaster. These are according to certain liberals (who are the damn capitalists) and these socialists the same Europeans who are against the 1% capitalists and their political cronies, this is another well thought of lie, they are against themselves been robbed as for African peoples been robbed it doesn’t mean shit to them. This clearly demonstrates European hierarchy.
leodensian RussBrown 6 Mar 2015 12:13 46 likes
They matter the least to other Africans, apparently, given who is doing all the killing.
Edgeley 6 Mar 2015 11:18 109 likes
OK. That’s the problem. Any suggestions about how to resolve it? Just shouting
“this is bad and it MUST stop” in a Guardiany way probably won’t be sufficient. Especially as intervening overseas seems a bit tainted as an action-plan at the moment.
gitski 6 Mar 2015 11:22 78 likes
If you cannot find a way to blame Europe or America the Left wing press are not going report it.
I see more on Sudan and the Congo in the independent and the telegraph than the Guardian.
This is a topic I will return to, these three comments show how Europeans are denying their responsibility and involvement in the wars and corruption in Africa by placing 100% of blame on Africans.
perdix 6 Mar 2015 11:25 63 likes
Are we frightened that we might be called racist if we criticise? Haven’t seen much reporting on Mugabe’s latest anti-white racist rant.
Your typical European nationalist who views Africans as threat to hist existence, even though most are powerless, in spite of this knowledge and irrelevance to the topic they never misses an opportunity to push their agenda. This is actually good for recruitment and to spark debates which can lead to more Europeans agreeing and understanding this commenter’s talking points, we (ACBN) should be copying these people and the phony European liberals who actually achieved high levels of success by spamming the internet with their viewpoints and have high levels of support by the white masses (even though they are seemingly contradictory). Should be noted this commenter received no backlash for lying on Mugabe, Zimbabwe’s white minority still controls large swathes of the nation’s economy.
Existangst 6 Mar 2015 11:28 66 likes
It really is none if our business. DRC was not a British Colony. Perhaps Belgium could be concerned.
Look at the mess in Zimbabwe since we left the country to Mugabe. We are damned if we do, and damned if we don’t.
This comment shows you knowledge is not going to stop anyone from been racist, been ignorant is not the cause of racism, the people who forefronted racism were not stupid people, but were the smartest European scientific, anthropological, religious and military minds. African Americans in particular need to stop falling for the stupid line ‘if we knew better’, this allows Europeans to get of the hook for their behavior and even gives them as sense of innocence as children are ignorant, adults are arrogant and these people are arrogant to the continual issues their racism presents but pretend they don’t know what the results look like each time. Many Europeans also still consider African a backwater of poverty, violence and Stone Age people which are all lies, but these lies justify their idea African nations are still colonies or commonwealth realms of theirs.
You have just seen a 21st century example of European popular ideals of Africa and how to treat Africans, these comments clearly come from a range of European ideological believers from European nationalist to European liberals, even though they don’t have the same political ideologies they all believe in European hegemony over Africa and Africans whether they absolve themselves of responsibility or demand an invasion force none seek to see Africa do well independent of their involvement. The topic I am coming back to of Europeans blaming Africans and saying they should not get involved, they should not deploy troops, are purposely ignoring the fact these wars are funded by Europeans, East Asians and Arabs which is still involvement none of which any political ideology of Europeans discusses or seeks to change. The same can be said of guns, consider over half of the guns in the world are manufactured by America (the only manufacturing base that remains in America), why is their involvement in gun sales, which result in such deadly pandemonium causing wars, ignored? These people know they are just as involved as the Africans who are self-destructing and these people have no interest in ending their side of the bargain. The issues that Europeans never pick up on (in any issue), the changes or lack off which have partially resulted in the problems we see today will never be properly addressed by any group of Europeans liberal or communist (the actual opposite of the European political spectrum). These are what Africans should be pointing out in our own discussions and be building agendas against that Africans can counterbalance these acts which are out of our control as well as Africans attacking and fixing issues within our community of our own making.
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Brilliant Respose. You would make a great writer or blogger. We need you kind of well written analysis. Its so little African Centered News.
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“This comment shows you knowledge is not going to stop anyone from been racist, been ignorant is not the cause of racism, the people who forefronted racism were not stupid people, but were the smartest European scientific, anthropological, religious and military minds.”
I’ve been saying this very exact thing for a while now. You don’t conquer a people like us as thoroughly as they did by being ignorant. These people are highly intelligent and extremely knowledgeable about our history and culture. They’ve been conducting anthropological studies on us for the LONGEST just to make sure they had all the information they could get on us (we just STARTED doing the same with them. Yurugu, by Marimba Ani is probably the only serious work of its kind right now). In fact, they know TOO MUCH about us.
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Yes, please start writing more. We need so much propaganda out there, man. Also we’re going to need to start making videos (with good production and cinematography) as well. Media is SO IMPORTANT. We greatly underestimate the critical importance of good media. Media is all about the spread and exchange of information and new ideas. There will never be a point in time where we will not have to put our own media.
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I have told negroes this, ignorance requires a form of innocence, requires child-like knowledge, they literally have dissected us like insects, had a nearly blank slate during slavery an re-wrote who we were, used the Bible to justify it, then used it to remove Africans out of history with their false ‘Curse of Ham’ which isn’t in the Bible or Talmud, they then dropped Abrahamic religions all together and used science to prove weren’t human, then when it proved they weren’t are now claiming to be us.
None of the above is child-like knowledge, this isn’t ignorance, this is blatant, in-your-face stuff where they have boldly said we weren’t equal, done things unequal to us, then given us certain things such as false independence in Africa but still own stuff and take away resources and are able to impose sanctions. This isn’t ignorance, a people with colleges, corporations, massive intelligence units, unions ect. are not ignorant of shit, they will use the knowledge of us against us. That is the reason they created studies on other groups in college to be able to use their culture against them, to infiltrate and as Amos Wilson told us for advertizing of products.
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None of the above is child-like knowledge, this isn’t ignorance, this is blatant, in-your-face stuff where they have boldly said we weren’t equal, done things unequal to us, then given us certain things such as false independence in Africa but still own stuff and take away resources
Deception is the art of War…Europeans play Ignorant to see HOW MUCH YOU KNOW!…
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From the top, US military leadership admits that Africans, not these Caucasian invaders of North Africa, not the Middle East, but Africa is unimportant. The ordinary Europeans just follow through with this as I’ve proven with the quotes from the Guardian. Hierarchy, when are we going to develop a sense of it.
Dr Godfrey Mwakikagile rightly pointed out that one of the part of the problem for Africa is not just based on racial lines but geography, European integration (the EU), just like Pan-Arabaism and even the false concept of Latin America work not only on the concept of being the same people but also on geography, clearly the later two and even Europeans are not necessary one people genetically speaking but geographically they can be and are important for trade end stability of nations. Dr Godfrey Mwakikagile highlights that Latin America just south of North America, North Africa and Arabia just south and south-east of Europe, Southeast Asia just south of East Asia, Southeast Asia and South Asia north of Australia all massive highly stratified economies and massive markets, geographically if these areas aren’t developed the poor people from these areas will mass immigrate to these regions (as we see today). Sub-Saharan Africa is not geographically close to any of these regions they have little need to develop their economies or prevent wars.
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Brilliant. You see that with the Pink Europeans angry at the Brown Mexicans coming through their borders in the USA. Mexico is a North American country yet they see the Hispanics who speak a different language as a different people. But when isiZulu get angry at Shona Nbele for coming into South Africa they are attacked and called Xenophobic. Great insight. Thank you.
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After reading this thread, I can honestly say that many black Americans are amongst the most racist people on the planet, worst than the KKK. Kudos black people, you learned nothing.
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I wish we were racist….Then we would control the Economy and Global Politics of the USA. KKK, US Congress, White Teachers, White Coporations….Racism seems to work well for you. If you enemy is doing something that has them winning maybe u should.
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You just don’t want a dose of your own medicine like all Whites.
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This is the funniest thread I have read in quite a while. Trying to convince the world that Black Africans are Gods and Black Africans were on this earth before any other race is hysterical! I do agree with one major point here, Zaza is a fraud to her own self. She is mixed, I wonder how she treats her Mother with that foul behavior? Also, her being a felon, cracks me up! What a hypocrite! You all should be ashamed for throwing this world back into segrogation and misery, but you are not, because of your God Complex. Smh Please, keep this behavior away from civilized people..it is an infectious disease.
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Integration is a Racist White tool so Whites can maintain their illegal domination of African people…You are a racist so I am not upset with your lies and projections that the worlds need White peoples. I agree with your assessment about that racist Mulatto, Zaza Ali.
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